OT: Flash MX 2004 Sucks 2004-03-04 - By Jesse Warden
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The Flash ecosystem is experiencing growing pains. You have a wide variety
of users utilizing Flash for a variety of needs. And not just Flash, but
the Flash plugin. There are already 4 IDE's from Macromedia for publishing
to SWF: Flash, ColdFusion, Flex, and Dreamweaver/Brady. Now, ColdFusion can
generate charts, but that is more of a hidden feature. Flex is mainly for
not just CF'ers but also enterprise developers where their methodology of
building applications is so alien to even forms based development, that
Macromedia had to go and build Flex. Dreamweaver, aside from it being
Brady'esque, the development IDE for Flex, supports a lot of Flash content
such as components, and some wrapper code (setting component properties via
FlashVars), so it technically can build small Flash applications too.
Keep in mind where we are going. Macromedia has been pushing Flash to the
application developer market, while still holding onto the designers and add
agencies that utilize Flash for those purposes. That is quite a stretch if
you ask me, one that shouldn't be made. I think the advent of Central and
Flex are the offshoots of that old base branch, Flash. Hopefully those of
use who wish to build the Flash apps of the future (non-web) will get an IDE
for Central. My first thought of Flex was really one of apathy as it's not
technically targeted towards me, but there are some smaller developers that
appear to want to develop applications that way. Where does that leave
Flash? In the hands of designers, I say. Keep in mind, too, FlashCast for
Flash Lite as well as Flashcom & Breeze Pods for Central. None of that
really has anything to do with Flash, and everything to do with the Flash
Player.
I think Flash's days are numbered, but before she goes, I think it's
Macromedia's civic duty to offer good documentation and a few improvements
for behaviors, so when a few of us ship off to other IDE's, we can at least
leave designers in good hands knowing that if they need Flash to do
something, people like me can still easily code them a behavior so they can
accomplish their projects.
Ok, now I'm totally OT, but at least hope some of the above helps in an
understanding of why things are a little shaky & disconnected.
-- --Original Message-- --
From: Kevin Pojman [mailto:kevinp@(protected)]
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 11:07 AM
To: flashnewbie@(protected)
Subject: Re: [Flashnewbie] Flash MX 2004 Sucks
I totally agree with Jesse. I have been using Flash for 4 years and
doing fine. I am not an AS expert nor a fast typer. Most of us are
inbetween. I think the behaviors are more for AS beginners. Eliminating
the normal mode puts a huge time constraint on developing AS at least
for me. I don't understand this mentality when other Macromedia
products such as Dreamweaver and Fireworks have been become more and
more WSYWIG in their approach to coding.
--
kevin
On Mar 4, 2004, at 10:26 AM, Jesse Warden wrote:
> You make a good point, but some people have no desire, nor need to
> program.
> Learning even rudementary procedural programming is an unfair
> expectation of
> the designers using Flash, hence, the Behavior panel. The execution,
> however, is the problem, not the lack of programming knowledge. I did
> just
> fine using the Normal Mode for a year or so.
>
> -- --Original Message-- --
> From: Lanham, Keith [mailto:LanhamKD@(protected)]
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 10:23 AM
> To: flashnewbie@(protected)
> Subject: RE: [Flashnewbie] Flash MX 2004 Sucks
>
>
> Mostly the people who have no earthly clue as to how to program. In
> the beginning I spent a lot of time cussing Macromedia. I am however
> learning to program now so it's not as big of a deal as it was when I
> first got MX Pro.
>
> My suggestion to Kevin is to just spend some time learning more about
> Actionscript and how to hand code it. It's not too bad once you get
> into it.
>
> -Keith
>
>
>
> -- --Original Message-- --
> From: Merrill, Jason [mailto:JMerrill@(protected)]
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 10:16 AM
> To: flashnewbie@(protected)
> Subject: RE: [Flashnewbie] Flash MX 2004 Sucks
>
> People actually used that feature? ;)
>
> Check out behaviors in MX2004.
>
> Jason Merrill
> ICF Consulting Government e-Learning Solutions
> icfconsulting.com
>
>
>
>
>
> :::>-- --Original Message-- --
> :::>From: Kevin Pojman [mailto:kevinp@(protected)]
> :::>Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 10:08 AM
> :::>To: flashnewbie@(protected)
> :::>Subject: [Flashnewbie] Flash MX 2004 Sucks
> :::>
> :::>
> :::>Just got the new Flash 7 and it sucks. Cannot believe
> :::>Macromedia took :::>out the normal mode from the actionscript
> panel. Why would they do :::>this??? Now takes ten times longer to
> type in scripts. :::>
> :::>--
> :::>
> :::>Kevin
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