 | | | Re: assessing interest in 3D scientific illustration | Re: assessing interest in 3D scientific illustration 2006-06-19 - By Ringo Monfort
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If the importer could be made how about creating not just a simple
importer but something of a bigger package so that the package would
have interest to others besides the ones that want 3d scientific
illustration.
some type of molecular kit with functions such as this:
http://www.maxon.net/pages/products/c4d/modules/mograph/movie_showreel.html
Just an idea.
Ringo
--- In Carrara@(protected), "steven_mcq" <smcquinn@(protected)> wrote:
>
> What distinguishes the PDB format is that it is not a geometry format
> per se (it does not include mesh information); rather, it is a text
> file specifying atom type, location and bonds between atoms. You can
> readily see how it is organized by opening it in notepad.
>
> If you want to examine a few, go here:
> http://www.rcsb.org/pdb/Welcome.do
>
> The PDB readers supply what amount to primitives in order to visualize
> the information. There are some defacto standards for symbolic
> representation.
>
> An export from a program like Acelrys viewer lite (no longer a free
> download, last I looked, but I grabbed it some years ago) will export
> the geometry it creates to visualize the file, but as I said, there is
> no mesh geometry in the PDB file itself.
>
> This is why I am asking for a PDB importer to Carrara that creates
> instances, using cloned primitives corresponding to the chosen type of
> molecular representation.
>
> I think a PDB importer would create a new market, a "build it and they
> will come" proposition. Assumptions that science illustrators use only
> high end programs are self fulfilling.
>
> SMcQ (lurking till the lights go out)
>
>
>
> --- In Carrara@(protected), "MD" <mike_delaflor@> wrote:
> >
> > Steve,
> >
> > PDB stands for Protein Data Bank, it is the proprietary data format
> > of the Brookhaven Nation Laboratories in New Jersey, now known as
> > the Research Collaboratory for Structural Bioinformatics (or RCSB).
> >
> > The PDB format was origianally desgined for programs such as,
> > RasMol, ChemOffice, and Chyme which are molecular visualization
> > programs used by the reasearch community. PDB was never really
> > intended for use in the artist community. However, as we all know
> > with the demand for medical visualization and education multimedia
> > artists have had to "make do" with the PDB file format.
> >
> > As I said, popular programs in the scientific and medical
> > illustration community such as, 3ds max and Maya have addressed the
> > issue with plug-ins that import the PDB data easily, so it is really
> > non-issue at this point. As Carrara becomes better known for its
> > improved features, I am sure the demand for the same PDB import will
> > increase.
> >
> > Mike de la Flor
> >
> > --- In Carrara@(protected), "Steve" <Steve@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Mike,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Why is PDB the standard format to begin with?
> > >
> > > I did a little search on it out of curiosity when the topic was
> > originally
> > > posted, but I guess I'm not sure
> > >
> > > Why they'd use something so seemingly far out of the norm, or if
> > it just is
> > > the norm in medical land.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > Steven
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > __ __
> > >
> > > From: Carrara@(protected) [mailto:Carrara@(protected)] On
> > Behalf Of
> > > MD
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 10:36 PM
> > > To: Carrara@(protected)
> > > Subject: [Carrara] Re: assessing interest in 3D scientific
> > illustration
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > As a practicing medical illustrator, I have to work with PDB data
> > > regularly. The "easiest" way to get PDB data into Carrara is to
> > use
> > > Accelrys Viewer Pro (or even the free lite version) to translate
> > the
> > > data from PDB to wrl. However, the results are often less than
> > > desirable as vrml or wrl files are sometimes imported into Carrara
> > > with texture or mesh problems or a restrictively massive (large
> > file
> > > size).
> > >
> > > I find that I have to use 3ds max to get the results that I want.
> > 3ds
> > > max and Maya (which I dont use) now have plug-ins that import PDB
> > data
> > > right into the software.
> > >
> > > It would be nice if Carrara had a similar plug-in also. However, I
> > > have also found that medical illustrators don't usually use
> > Carrara,
> > > 3ds max and Maya (also to some degree Lightwave and Cinema4D) are
> > the
> > > standards. I think that maybe the reason that there is no real
> > demand
> > > to have these features in Carrara.
> > >
> > > Mike de la Flor
> > >
> > > --- In Carrara@(protected) <mailto:Carrara%40yahoogroups.com> .com,
> > > "steven_mcq" <smcquinn@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I've long made the case to Eovia and plugin developers for
> > features
> > > > that would benefit science illustrators.
> > > >
> > > > Recently we've seen interest on the list regarding PDB (Protein
> > > > Database) import, and I've pleaded for adaptation of the metaball
> > > > modeler to show isosurfaces from electron density data.
> > > >
> > > > If you are interested in using Eovia/DAZ software and content for
> > > > science illustration, what offerings would you like to see?
> > > >
> > > > SMcQ
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>
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